Ltning

@ltning@weirdr.net

He/him. This is one of my alter egos in the retro world. Read about this instance on front page. My goal is to be able to post here from a 286* running DOS. Might be a while..

and enthusiast with a craving for retro (mostly PC) hardware. Four kids and a wonderful patchwork family.

*Speaking of 286es: http://floppy.museum/

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@ltning@weirdr.net

After a fair bit of fiddling, this instance is now .. operational, I think? And this is officially my first post here.

See also my main fediverse presence: @ltning@anduin.net

About this instance, at the time of writing:
- OS: 10
- Reverse proxy: nginx
- CPU: Dual Pentium Pro Overdrive, 333MHz
- RAM: 512MB EDO
- NIC: 3Com 100Mbit PCI NIC
- Storage: SATA 1.0 (CF and SSD)


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    Posting and boosting this certainly put the box under some duress.. Changed ssl_ecdh_curve from secp521r1:secp384r1; to X25519:prime256v1; now; let's see if that helps.

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    @tom@epsom.social Mind sharing the tls config? Key lengths, curves, ciphers and protocols?

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      @tom@epsom.social fully expect I have to build a bunch of stuff myself. Including netbsd. But I expect snac to build nicely and not require any special gymnastics. :)

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        I'm thinking of running it on a 120/133MHz AMD 5x86 or something like that. It should (at least) have 64MB RAM, possibly 128 if I can get it to cache the whole range.

        A bigger challenge will be the Nintendo WII - it has, I believe, 24MB or something like that? But at least the CPU should be vastly superior to any 486..

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          How much memory does Apache use then? It sounds like unnecessary bloat even with modules disabled. But maybe that's just me still clinging to 20+ year old impressions of Apache being bloated by definition.

          Do you do TLS in Apache too? On a K6-II?

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            @gyptazy@gyptazy.com Still runs circles around a 1998 chip though. But it shows what good code can get out of questionable hardware.

            Cc @grunfink@comam.es @gumnos@bsd.cafe @rubenerd@bsd.network

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              Happy to please :D Now would it be considered cheating if I ran snac on a 486 but with TLS handled elsewhere (simply for lack of CPU instructions to do EC TLS)? :)

              CC: @gumnos@bsd.cafe @rubenerd@bsd.network @grunfink@comam.es

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                Since nobody asked, here are a couple of pictures of the rig. It's not posing for the picture (I didn't tell it what was going on), so it's as messy as usual.

                I'll post each picture as a reply to this post, as snac doesn't like multiple attachments..

                Enjoy. And wish the poor box luck serving this.


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                  This is the "aquarium case", as it has become known around the office. It has a nearly-invisible batman-symbol embossed on the front, and a similar cutout in the back. Beats me why, but it's kinda cool.

                  Server seen from the front. Black base with CD-ROM drive and power button in the front. The mainboard is mounted horizontally in the upper half, which is transparent. Seen are various expansion cards and the back of the CPU card itself.

                  Alt...Server seen from the front. Black base with CD-ROM drive and power button in the front. The mainboard is mounted horizontally in the upper half, which is transparent. Seen are various expansion cards and the back of the CPU card itself.

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                  And here's the innards. Curious eyes might spot some old and dear sound cards, other than that the highlight is of course the mainboard and the CPU board, which is replaceable. And the CPUs, obviously.

                  Inside of machine, showing two CPUs with fans on the CPU board, some RAM, a SCSI card, network card, SATA controller card and GPU - all 32-bit PCI. Next up are two sound cards - a Gravis Ultrasound and a Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold.

                  Alt...Inside of machine, showing two CPUs with fans on the CPU board, some RAM, a SCSI card, network card, SATA controller card and GPU - all 32-bit PCI. Next up are two sound cards - a Gravis Ultrasound and a Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold.

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                  And finally, the screenfetch output. Full text in description.

                  OS: NetBSD, Kernel: i386 NetBSD 10.0_STABLE, Uptime: 3d 2h 55m, Packages: 393, Shell: bash, Resolution: 1600x1200, WM: WindowMaker, GTK Theme: Arc-Dark [GTK2/3], Icon Theme: Adwaita, Font: Sans 9, Disk: 7.3G / 241G (3%), CPU: Intel 686-class @ 2x 333MHz, GPU: Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5964) x86/MMX DRI2, RAM: 351MiB / 486MiB

                  Alt... OS: NetBSD, Kernel: i386 NetBSD 10.0_STABLE, Uptime: 3d 2h 55m, Packages: 393, Shell: bash, Resolution: 1600x1200, WM: WindowMaker, GTK Theme: Arc-Dark [GTK2/3], Icon Theme: Adwaita, Font: Sans 9, Disk: 7.3G / 241G (3%), CPU: Intel 686-class @ 2x 333MHz, GPU: Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5964) x86/MMX DRI2, RAM: 351MiB / 486MiB

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                  Yeah I agree. It's absolutely awesome - also that (and all the other variants) are first-class citizens. Thank you, @grunfink@comam.es!

                  CC: @rubenerd@bsd.network

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                    I'm on NetBSD and at least pkgin knows nothing about OpenBSD's httpd (I think)..
                    Do you have any idea of the memory footprint of h2o when doing TLS and proxying?

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                      Any idea of its memory footprint in such a case? When doing TLS?

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                        Sadly not on NetBSD though :)

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                          Damn I like the whole css-or-bust approach to styling that has. I mean I know many (most?) others do a bit of the same but this is just delightful.

                          So..TLS aside, what is the most lightweight reverse proxy I can use instead of nginx in front of this thing? You know, in case I would like to move the instance from this beefy PPro to, say, a or a Wii running ? :)


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                            TIL today: secp* curves are orders of magnitude slower than X25519 and prime256v1. At least on a Pentium Pro/Pentium II-class CPU.

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                              [?]Ltning »
                              @ltning@weirdr.net

                              After a fair bit of fiddling, this instance is now .. operational, I think? And this is officially my first post here.

                              See also my main fediverse presence: @ltning@anduin.net

                              About this instance, at the time of writing:
                              - OS: 10
                              - Reverse proxy: nginx
                              - CPU: Dual Pentium Pro Overdrive, 333MHz
                              - RAM: 512MB EDO
                              - NIC: 3Com 100Mbit PCI NIC
                              - Storage: SATA 1.0 (CF and SSD)


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                                Anders Gulden Olstad boosted

                                [?]Ltning »
                                @ltning@weirdr.net

                                Posting and boosting this certainly put the box under some duress.. Changed ssl_ecdh_curve from secp521r1:secp384r1; to X25519:prime256v1; now; let's see if that helps.

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