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Search results for tag #retrocomputing

[?]SuperIlu » 🌐
@dec_hl@mastodon.social

[?]ICM » 🌐
@icm@mastodon.sdf.org

We had 217 visitors and participants at ICF over the weekend! Thank you to everyone who made it a great event.

If you’d like to support this event and future events, donations are welcome at icm.museum

ICF participants

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ICF participants

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ICF participants

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ICF participants

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    [?]ltning » 🌐
    @ltning@pleroma.anduin.net

    Hello fellow #retrocomputing people! How can I make a #DoorGame available without running a full-blown #BBS in front of it, using #FOSSIL ? The DWHOST program from #Doorway can do it but, stupidly, it does not support FOSSIL despite Doorway itself - which DWHOST is supposed to sit in front of - support and even recommend it... (This is all pure #DOS so no Linux/unix/windows solutions will help..)

    #MSDOS #RunDOS

      [?]SuperIlu » 🌐
      @dec_hl@mastodon.social

      [?]mbbrutman » 🌐
      @mbbrutman@mastodon.sdf.org

      Getting set up for another Interim Computer Festival! At my table I'll be taking about two C compilers for DOS - Turbo C++ 3.0 and Open Watcom 1.9. The 486 running Turbo C++ has both a VGA card and an MDA card for dual-head debugging.

      My table featuring two C compilers for DOS at the Interim Computer Festival.

      Alt...My table featuring two C compilers for DOS at the Interim Computer Festival.

        [?]ICM » 🌐
        @icm@mastodon.sdf.org

        The Interim Computer Festival FALL 2025 is this Saturday and Sunday 10am-6pm at INTRASPACE 3100 airport way s. Seattle WA 98134

        A free event celebrating

        Retro micro computers

        Alt...Retro micro computers

        The interim computer festival

        Alt...The interim computer festival

        A couple of PDP-8 computers

        Alt...A couple of PDP-8 computers

        Event exhibitor cards

        Alt...Event exhibitor cards

          [?]ICM » 🌐
          @icm@mastodon.sdf.org

          The Thinking Machines CM2 debuted last night, Bruce resolved the sense amp issue in the PDP-7 and michael played ADVENT on the PDP-8/e

          icm.museum

          Rick and the CM2

          Alt...Rick and the CM2

          A centurion CDC drive

          Alt...A centurion CDC drive

          Michael played adventure on the PDP-8/e

          Alt...Michael played adventure on the PDP-8/e

          Bruce and Rick at the PDP-7

          Alt...Bruce and Rick at the PDP-7

            [?]ICM » 🌐
            @icm@mastodon.sdf.org

            The PDP-8/e’s RK05 cleaned up and booted OS/8 just fine. Here it is loading up ADVENT for tonight’s event.

            icm.museum

            Alt...A PDP-8/e running adventure

              [?]ICM » 🌐
              @icm@mastodon.sdf.org

              We’re ready for this evening!

              icm.museum

              A thinking machines cm2

              Alt...A thinking machines cm2

              A ka10

              Alt...A ka10

              The pdp12

              Alt...The pdp12

              A cm2 processor card

              Alt...A cm2 processor card

                [?]ICM » 🌐
                @icm@mastodon.sdf.org

                The Interim Computer Festival FALL 2025 is this weekend October 4th and 5th at INTRASPACE from 10am - 6pm each day. This is a free event. Exhibitor registration will close soon.

                sdf.org/icf

                A flyer poster by k8e for the Interim Computer Festival FALL 2025

                Alt...A flyer poster by k8e for the Interim Computer Festival FALL 2025

                  [?]ICM » 🌐
                  @icm@mastodon.sdf.org

                  Saturday we got one of the Symbolics LISP Machines up and running along side the Thinking Machines Connection Machine.

                  would you like to help us and learn more?

                  icm.museum

                  A person with a lisp machine

                  Alt...A person with a lisp machine

                  A person with a lisp machine and cm2

                  Alt...A person with a lisp machine and cm2

                    [?]SuperIlu » 🌐
                    @dec_hl@mastodon.social

                    I just published v0.98 of , a scripting environment for . This is the 'little' text-mode brother to .

                    - updated curl, mbedTLS and zip

                    github.com/SuperIlu/jSH





                      [?]ICM » 🌐
                      @icm@mastodon.sdf.org

                      it’s getting there! help us at icm.museum to support the Thinking Machines Connection Machine re-animation journey!

                      Alt...Thinking machines CM2 blazing away

                        [?]ICM » 🌐
                        @icm@mastodon.sdf.org

                        Come see us light up the Thinking Machines CM-2 on Thursday October 2nd just before the Interim Computer Festival weekend!

                        icm.museum

                        Thinking machines CM2

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                        Thinking machines CM2

                        Alt...Thinking machines CM2

                          [?]SuperIlu » 🌐
                          @dec_hl@mastodon.social

                          Jay 🚩 :runbsd: boosted

                          [?]ltning » 🌐
                          @ltning@pleroma.anduin.net

                          The feeling when some of the Grand Masters and Architects of #UNIX mocks me for being crazy to run modern #NetBSD on decidedly-not-modern hardware while also pointing out how *incredibly* powerful this 386sx/486-class hardware is and what an absurdly huge amount of memory 16MB is compared to what *they* had while, you know, developing UNIX..

                          #EuroBSDCon #RunBSD #Retrocomputing #Fanboi #StarStruck

                          Marshall Kirk McKusick, Eric Allman, a couple of (much) younger BSD developers and myself hovering over an old open-frame PC build which is busy booting NetBSD. Sponsor pull-up poster for Entersekt/Modirum (my employer) in the background.

                          Alt...Marshall Kirk McKusick, Eric Allman, a couple of (much) younger BSD developers and myself hovering over an old open-frame PC build which is busy booting NetBSD. Sponsor pull-up poster for Entersekt/Modirum (my employer) in the background.

                            [?]mbbrutman » 🌐
                            @mbbrutman@mastodon.sdf.org

                            I'm going to be talking about C compilers and DOS at my next retrocomputing event and I'm going to hand out "quick reference" style cards to anybody that passes by. Here is my first draft; what am I missing that I should include?

                            (I'm targeting an index card for these, so space is limited.)

                            C Programming in DOS Tips quick reference card draft.

                            Alt...C Programming in DOS Tips quick reference card draft.

                              [?]ICM » 🌐
                              @icm@mastodon.sdf.org

                              Our precursor tech room features electromechanical machines from the 1950s and 1960s

                              icm.museum

                              A teletype, a card sorter and a key punch

                              Alt...A teletype, a card sorter and a key punch

                              A teletype, a card sorter and a key punch

                              Alt...A teletype, a card sorter and a key punch

                                [?]mbbrutman » 🌐
                                @mbbrutman@mastodon.sdf.org

                                I'm going to be participating at the next Interim Computer Festival in Seattle in two weeks. Here is the banner for the table that I'm having printed.

                                sdf.org/icf/

                                October 4th and 5th, Seattle

                                Banner for ICF - "C programming in DOS is fun.  Change my mind."

                                Alt...Banner for ICF - "C programming in DOS is fun. Change my mind."

                                  [?]ICM » 🌐
                                  @icm@mastodon.sdf.org

                                  Join us on ssh lcm3b2@bitzone.sdf.org in 'com' from the Vintage Computer Festival MidWest today!

                                  a list of remote systems in an ascii menu

                                  Alt...a list of remote systems in an ascii menu

                                  a stack of remote systems

                                  Alt...a stack of remote systems

                                  The running remote systems at Interim Computer Museum

                                  Alt...The running remote systems at Interim Computer Museum

                                    [?]ltning » 🌐
                                    @ltning@pleroma.anduin.net

                                    Here we go again, #EuroBSDCon! I may have mentioned it, but it's really happening*: I'm giving a talk again, this time titled:

                                    Dirty Tricks: Using #nginx and #Lua to thwart bots and skript kiddies

                                    This talk is specifically for anyone who

                                    • has tried to host a BBS on the Internet,
                                    • is struggling with scrapers and bots,
                                    • lives in the #RetroComputing bubble,
                                    • wants to see an early '90s PC on stage,
                                    • needs a telnet captcha, or
                                    • simply has nothing better to do.

                                    Read more about it here, take a look at the conference schedule, and buy your ticket!

                                    See you there!

                                    #FreeBSD #Security #BSD #RunBSD #DOS #RunDOS #TheDraw #AnsiArt

                                    * I didn't want to post this until I was fairly certain I could even pull this off..

                                    Introduction screen from my talk, presented in ANSI art. The words "nginx" and "LUA" in large ANSI fonts in the top left and bottom right corners, with some of the text from the talk description (linked in the post) in the middle.

                                    Alt...Introduction screen from my talk, presented in ANSI art. The words "nginx" and "LUA" in large ANSI fonts in the top left and bottom right corners, with some of the text from the talk description (linked in the post) in the middle.

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                                      [?]Ltning » 🌐
                                      @ltning@weirdr.net

                                      Welcome to my mini ISA VGA shootout!
                                      TL;DR: ISA Matrox cards are really, really slow in DOS.

                                      I recently built an original Pentium 60MHz system, built on an ECS motherboard. Around the same time I received a "mystery" VGA card: A Matrox MGA Impression ISA card. And since most of my builds are "open builds" and therefore easily accessible, that machine got the pleasure of becoming the test bench for the Matrox.

                                      As already revealed, the Matrox performs atrociously bad. So bad, in fact, that I had to test a couple other ISA cards to make sure it wasn't a system issue. I used my go-to benchmarking tool from Phil's DOS Benchmark Pack. I really don't want to experience Doom with this card..

                                      And without further ado, the contestants and their results in this spur-of-the-moment benchmark run:
                                      - Baseline: A 32-bit PCI S3 Virge/DX based card with 4MB RAM: A perfectly workable 48.2
                                      - The low-end Trident TVGA9000C with 512KB RAM (this is a real garbage card): A pretty shitty 14.2
                                      - The mid-range Cirrus Logic CL-GD-5422 with 1MB RAM (this is a decent card, know for compatibility but not necessarily speed): A barely bearable 24.7
                                      - And finally, the "star" of the show, the Matrox: A whopping 10.9!

                                      I said it was atrocious, didn't I? But hey, I'm gonna use this one with anyway, so who cares about DOS performance, right? ;)


                                      Montage: Close-up of the S3 card installed in the system, next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                      Alt...Montage: Close-up of the S3 card installed in the system, next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                      Montage: Picture of the Trident (a small ISA card) next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                      Alt...Montage: Picture of the Trident (a small ISA card) next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                      Montage: Picture of the Cirrus Logic (small ISA card) next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                      Alt...Montage: Picture of the Cirrus Logic (small ISA card) next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                      Montage: Picture of the Matrox (a very large full-length ISA card) next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                      Alt...Montage: Picture of the Matrox (a very large full-length ISA card) next to picture of the 3DBench result

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                                        [?]Ltning » 🌐
                                        @ltning@weirdr.net

                                        Welcome to my mini ISA VGA shootout!
                                        TL;DR: ISA Matrox cards are really, really slow in DOS.

                                        I recently built an original Pentium 60MHz system, built on an ECS motherboard. Around the same time I received a "mystery" VGA card: A Matrox MGA Impression ISA card. And since most of my builds are "open builds" and therefore easily accessible, that machine got the pleasure of becoming the test bench for the Matrox.

                                        As already revealed, the Matrox performs atrociously bad. So bad, in fact, that I had to test a couple other ISA cards to make sure it wasn't a system issue. I used my go-to benchmarking tool from Phil's DOS Benchmark Pack. I really don't want to experience Doom with this card..

                                        And without further ado, the contestants and their results in this spur-of-the-moment benchmark run:
                                        - Baseline: A 32-bit PCI S3 Virge/DX based card with 4MB RAM: A perfectly workable 48.2
                                        - The low-end Trident TVGA9000C with 512KB RAM (this is a real garbage card): A pretty shitty 14.2
                                        - The mid-range Cirrus Logic CL-GD-5422 with 1MB RAM (this is a decent card, known for compatibility but not necessarily speed): A barely bearable 24.7
                                        - And finally, the "star" of the show, the Matrox: A whopping 10.9!

                                        I said it was atrocious, didn't I? But hey, I'm gonna use this one with anyway, so who cares about DOS performance, right? ;)


                                        Montage: Close-up of the S3 card installed in the system, next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                        Alt...Montage: Close-up of the S3 card installed in the system, next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                        Montage: Picture of the Trident (a small ISA card) next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                        Alt...Montage: Picture of the Trident (a small ISA card) next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                        Montage: Picture of the Cirrus Logic (small ISA card) next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                        Alt...Montage: Picture of the Cirrus Logic (small ISA card) next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                        Montage: Picture of the Matrox (a very large full-length ISA card) next to picture of the 3DBench result

                                        Alt...Montage: Picture of the Matrox (a very large full-length ISA card) next to picture of the 3DBench result

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                                          [?]Ltning » 🌐
                                          @ltning@weirdr.net

                                          player UI shootout! An AMD Am5x86 at 120MHz with a Gravis Ultrasound PnP playing back a VBR (~254Kbps) 44.1KHz MP3 file at full quality.

                                          The contenders: QuickView Pro version (dvpro), Digital Sound System 3.1 (dss) and MPXPlay 1.67 (mpx). The file: Astral Projection's "Bizarre Contact" from the album "Ten".

                                          Enjoy these clips :D


                                          Alt...QuickView Pro: file listing in the background and a simple status dialog in the foreground showing file information and the playback time.

                                          Alt...MPXPlay: File/directory browser below (mostly removed from the video), spectrum analyzer and various playback information on top.

                                          Alt...DSS: VU meters for left/right and playback information along with a lot of information about the file and the sound device.

                                          Alt...DSS: Spectrum analyzer, plus technical information as in the other video.

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                                            [?]Ltning » 🌐
                                            @ltning@weirdr.net

                                            Despite all the things IBM did right with OS/2, there were some absolutely mind-boggling decisions made. Today's example: Using Java (version 1.11 or better, mind you) and a Netscape browser plug-in to install TCP/IP. Other than the chicken-and-egg-problem (which is solved by installing the transport services - NIC and protocol drivers - first), there's the fact that they had a perfectly good software installation framework which ran fine on like 6-8MB of RAM (total!). This variant swaps until my CF card starts sweating with 16MB, and is s-l-o-w!

                                            I mean yeah, great, I get a proper BSD-4.4, 32-bit TCP/IP stack and tools. But it's taken me half a day. Getting the installation files over involved loading packet drivers and using in a DOS session. Which works .. surprisingly well. But still .. FixPak43, reboot. MPTS, reboot. Netscape 2.02, reboot. Java 1.18, reboot. Feature Installer plug-in (no reboot). Then, finally, TCP/IP.

                                            All this to have a machine to play with at .


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                                              [?]Ltning » 🌐
                                              @ltning@weirdr.net

                                              Trying to optimise http://floppy.museum for (even) older browsers. Some of the issues I'm trying to solve include utf8-to-latin1 translation (the original HTML has some silly double- and triple-byte characters), and variations of JPEG that simply aren't understood.

                                              Turns out Netscape 2.02 is too easy, so in this picture is IBM WebExplorer v1.1h running on OS/2 Warp Connect. Using the magic "work area" feature of folders (mark a folder as a work area to have the OS manage objects within it as a kind of unit), I can open several windows at once. True multi-process browsing 😉


                                              OS/2 Warp Connect with four browser windows, a text mode editor editing config.sys, the parent "work area" folder and the launch pad.

                                              Alt...OS/2 Warp Connect with four browser windows, a text mode editor editing config.sys, the parent "work area" folder and the launch pad.

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                                                [?]Ltning » 🌐
                                                @ltning@weirdr.net

                                                Well .. that went sideways. Despite many attempts, I have yet to find a 286 - or a 386sx for that matter - that will boot the NetBSD floppies without failing in some way or other. I'm not yet certain (perhaps someone here knows?), but there may be instructions missing from the various 486SLC and 486DLC CPU variants that my ugprade modules have. Or there are other bugs that I have not been able to figure out.

                                                Anyway, I've reduced my ambitions ever so slightly, and am now in the process of installing NetBSD (-CURRENT) on what is essentially a 386SX-class machine: 16-bit bus, 24-bit addressing, 16MB RAM, and nearly as unpleasantly slow as the 286 I had planned to use. It is however equipped with an IBM-branded 486SLC, which is from the Blue Lightning series. This one definitely has a full 486 instruction set. More hardware details will follow when I've completed the build (and installation).

                                                Meanwhile, the obligatory screenshot from the installer. Note the ETA for simply unpacking base.tgz ..

                                                Screenshot from installer. Shows base.txz being extracted, at a speed of 110 KB/s. ETA given is about 30 minutes, which turned out to be relatively accurate.

                                                Alt...Screenshot from installer. Shows base.txz being extracted, at a speed of 110 KB/s. ETA given is about 30 minutes, which turned out to be relatively accurate.

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                                                  [?]Ltning » 🌐
                                                  @ltning@weirdr.net

                                                  And it lives! Apparently I'm officially operating a Motherboard Bakery! :)
                                                  Now I need to get it properly configured and tested with DOS, then I can move on to the next steps - which involve the CPU upgrade, and assuming that works, creating actual, physical floppies.

                                                  (In other news, the instance on this poor Pentium Pro server is sweating hard whenever I post something. So let me know at @ltning@anduin.net if you have problems receiving/reading my posts. I've made some tweaks but it will be unavoidably detained for a while following each post, my apologies for that..)


                                                  Picture of BIOS during boot. It's a 1990 American Megatrends BIOS, for the TD60C board, BIOS version 2.42B. It shows a 20MHz CPU clock and 15872 KB RAM tested OK.

                                                  Alt...Picture of BIOS during boot. It's a 1990 American Megatrends BIOS, for the TD60C board, BIOS version 2.42B. It shows a 20MHz CPU clock and 15872 KB RAM tested OK.

                                                    ltning boosted

                                                    [?]mbbrutman » 🌐
                                                    @mbbrutman@mastodon.sdf.org

                                                    The latest mTCP for DOS is available!

                                                    This version includes some changes to improve TCP reliability on long running (but idle) connections, black & white Sixel graphics in Telnet, a Telnet emulation bug fix, and other small fixes sprinkled around.

                                                    The source code to NetDrive (network attached storage) is also published now - enjoy reading an unholy mix of x86 assembly code talking to Golang over UDP!

                                                    Spread the word! Friends don't let friends run old code ...

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